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Point, i would say, mr. meadows, you received these texts on january 6, what did you do with them? did you bring them to the attention of the president? what was the president's response? essentially it's the howard baker question. many years later, what did the president know and when did he know it? ryan nobles, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. the committee's argument against mark meadows tonight is about building a case based on evidence, and as ryan just said, that includes the former chief of staff's own text messages. >> one text mr. meadows received said, quote, we are...

Then another text to a lawmaker, yesterday was a terrible day. we tried everything we could in our objection to the six states. i'm sorry nothing works. you see the dichotomy here, right? it wasn't just about people being concerned for their lives, which is what you read in some of these texts but it was also about this disappointment that they were unable to prevent the democratic process from moving forward. >> right, so if i were now taking the deposition of mark meadows, if they get to that point, i would say, mr. meadows, you received these texts on january 6, what did you do with them? d...

>> within the time frame -- >> you have been reporting on -- >> i think it's not mutually exclusive that jared kushner -- on the new york times reporting that jared kushner might have given him a heads up and might have been told not to give them details and that the president was informed of the details later on. i mean that's what -- we don't know the answer to this. we don't know what the president knew and when he knew it to rephrase the howard baker question. we don't know at this point. >> but how much is this a credibility issue for the white house now? we hear what they say, what don j...

They don't quite know what to do at this point. >> anyways, you wrote it seems weiner is trying to channel the spirit of ed koch who wasn't a bad guy. last night we saw a side of him come out when a voter challenged him on the question whether he could ever be trusted. of course, he gave a self-interested answer. it's interesting to watch. let's watch. >> i'm not going to go into the corner and curl up because someone found something embarrassing about me. if you become mayor of the city of new york, you've got to put up with this every single day. people saying to you, you did something we do...

Trying to use the scandals involving weiner, eliot spitzer, and san diego mayor bob filner to argue it's the democrats waging war on women out there. when it comes to policy questions, this war is very one-sided. first the gop at war with itself. ted cruz going after fellow republicans for shot supporting a government shutdown over obama care. he's a political terrorist on this one. and weiner's sexting scandal has been very good for the tabloid business and late night medians. finally, i'm going to talk about cruz, paul, and lee. and this is "hardball," thths. you make a great team. it's ...