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All the presidents men went to jail the attorney john mitchell, hr haldeman, john ehrlichman, the list is long but the pardon gerald ford which most historians have sai give accolades to ford, he hea the nation for the memoirs is called th time to heal now i don t know about it. after living through trump may have been a mistake to pardo nixon because it allows people like trump who are bad operators to fill themselves with unwelcome hubris. i think the historica consensus on that pardon has really shifted for exactly the reasons that you have noted. douglas brinkley, a grea pleasure to have you here. my friend and colleague john psyche, check her out this weekend. thank you very much. that is all in on this norma thursday night and the rachel maddow show starts right now good evening, rachel this is not supposed to b when the rachel maddow show is on i know. can i tell you a quick funny thing? you texted back the back and ....
Lawrence. [laughs] they are waiting for the moment when it is going to drop. a lot of republicans are not looking forward to this day. but i want to ask you this question, i was thinking about it earlier today. you put this story with meadows, there s an increasing sense that meadows was the repository of i mean, i don t know white house sheaf of staff that give their phone number out. yeah. and they text this wide array of people. i think if you put this together with the meadows voter fraud thing we have seen in recent days, do you not think that it is getting pretty clear that mark meadows has suppressed hr haldeman as the worst white house chief of staff of our life? it is a four way tie, with white house chiefs of staff and trump has made it an extremely difficult call. we are going to have to deliberate on that another night. john heilemann, thank you very much for joining us tonight, we appreciate it. thank you. and coming up we will get a live report from ukraine an ....
Committee, is that everyone who texted mark meadows knows who they are. and they all know that they are still secret, those who did in secret, but they all know also that every one of the texas is eventually going to be out there. yes. and there are a lot of nervous people in washington tonight, lawrence. [laughs] they are waiting for the moment when it is going to drop. a lot of republicans are not looking forward to this day. but i want to ask you this question, i was thinking about it earlier today. you put this story with meadows, there s an increasing sense that meadows was the repository of i mean, i don t know white chiefs of staff of the white house that give their phone number out. yeah. and they text this wide array of people. i think if you put this together with the meadows voter fraud thing we have seen in recent days, do you not think that it is getting pretty clear that mark meadows has suppressed hr haldeman as the worst white house chief of staff of our life? ....
He s been accused of sharing trump polling data with a russian associate tied to the kremlin, helping to elect ukraine s russia s man in the ukraine which he s not charged with but it is a part of his history. there is a ukrainian peace plan that was floated that supposedly would help to ease russian sanctions, sanctions against russia. of course the trump campaign gutting the gop s anti-russian plank. that s the only thing they changed in the platform. what might one expect judge jackson taking in paul manafort s history, which is anything but blameless, and the history of the way people have been charged in things like watergate. liddy got four years for conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping. e. howard hunt, burglary and conspiracy, 33 months. john dean turned states evidence and got four months. john mitchell, h.r.haldeman down ....