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Certain alt of altitude before it works for you, won't it? >> that's true. and we don't know what else -- what altitude they were at before they went in but in this kind of an airplane that's a last ditch effort and anybody would try it just in case. jon: apparently, one person on board. the pilot has been killed. this is one of the busiest airports in the country, weather was clear at the time. you have to suspect there was some kind of mechanical failure here. >> well, if the engine was sputtering, i think that's probably a fairly good bet. i mean, the cirrus is not a terribly complicated ai...

More than $250,000 a year means a tax hike for businesses, many with fewer than 200 workers. jon. jon: rich edson, thanks rich this fox news alert, a small plane crashing near phoenix's deer valley airport. witnesses say the plane's engine began sputtering soon after takeoff around 6:00 this morning phoenix time. it slammed into a building, killing the pilot. on the phone with us now, rob mark, a commercial pilot and editor of jet line.com. obviously the worst time to have engine trouble is when you're getting ready to take off, huh rob? >> absolutely. of course, i spent a lot of time, i tea...