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and if you're just tuning in to cnn i have to tell you about betty thompson, the committee chair. he says that the january six committee has decided whether to subpoena mike pence or trying to call donald trump to testify. watch this? >> i think we would benefit from that testimony. they both have, i would think, significant knowledge about what goes on. but we have a committee. and we will work through the process. >> plus, first of cnn, multiple sources say a former trump national security council official will not testify, publicly, and thursday's primetime hearing. matthew pottin...

what we will start to find out on thursday night is what was happening inside the white house during those 187 minutes? who was talking to the president. but where they say. but was the president saying in response. why was it going to the public saying stop this madness? >> you said you remember it. we all remember it. everyone was saying, where is the president? why isn't he saying anything right now? but the heck is going on? the chairman, benny thompson, is telling our colleague, molly raju, that the select committee has not made a decision yet on calling on pence and trump to te...