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Conductor who may be going too fast -- >> are you speaking about this positive train control, is that the technology you're speaking about? >> right. that deals with the infrastructure failure which some people are wanting to have that conversation about infrastructure. it also deals with the human failure. it appears in this case -- we knew quickly there was a speed issue which we talked about yesterday morning that deals with the human failure. in this case speed. it will slow the train down. what's happened is people have changed the discussion to talk about high speed rail and other distra...

Approaching the curve the rocking begins to take place. the fact the engine went off the high side begins to think the hypothesis is where we're headed. the frustrating part for americans and that there's technology in place that can help to address this. let's not get ahead of ourselves. let's assume perhaps there may be human failure here or perhaps there's infrastructure. congress loves to mandate things but don't have the money available to put these things in place. this technology is there and congress won't fund it is very frustrating. they have mandated the use of it and don't put the ...

Minot was strike one. malmstrom is strike two. i'm fearful of what strike three looks like. >> the commander was allowed to resign both from his command and the air force, he wrote a heart felt letter to the airmen explaining his decision to resign and essentially excoriating them for nobody coming forward to complain about the cheating. nobody willing to come forward to say i know this is happening and it's wrong. he described it essentially as an integrity problem. that implies a sort of human failure that's unrelated to the nuclear mission. do you see this as something that's nuclear specif...

>> the commander was allowed to resign both from his command and the air force, he wrote a heart felt letter to the airmen explaining his decision to resign and essentially excoriating them for nobody coming forward to complain about the cheating. nobody willing to come forward to say i know this is happening and it's wrong. he described it essentially as an integrity problem. that implies a sort of human failure that's unrelated to the nuclear mission. do you see this as something that's nuclear specific or a broader problem that has nothing to do with those missiles? >> you have to feel for ...

I think peter is right. talking about professionals in the cockpit at this point in time, including a checked pilot. let the airline get away from them, obviously. there is some good where learn something so it doesn't happen again. i think this was simply a human failure in the cockpit. >> the way we understand it, according to deborah hersman, ntsb chairwoman, about seven seconds before impact, the crew notices that they don't have enough air speed, and the stick shaker before they try to call an abort mr. goelz, should the stick shaker go off before 4 seconds off impact? >> the stick shaker...