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Speed was 137 knots. And the question was whether or not we had the lowest speed that the crew achieved. I will tell you that the speed was significantly below 137 knots and we are not talking about a few knots. We still have to corroborate some information. This was a preliminary read. The 137 knots came from the crew conversation about their approach speed. We need to take a closer look at the raw data on the Flight Data Recorder as well as corroborate that with radar and air traffic information to make sure that we have a very precise speed. Again, we are not talking about a few knots here ...

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Suhartono who broke the story and we are joined by cnn aviation analyst peter goals. alan, tell us more about what you discovered. >> this is a very critical flight because all of the flight crew survived unlike what happened the next day, but they had an identical failure. shortly after takeoff all of these alarms start going off and they get what's called a stick shaker which indicates it's a very dire situation that an aerodynamic stall is occurring. they're going through checklists. they can't figure out what's going on and after a little bit of altitude the plane starts trying to dive on ...

Lot of opportunities and certainly should have a lot of incentive to make sure that that never happened again. but what we're learning now is that the repair, if you will, or the fix was continue to certify a page or two, make some changes in the manual, not many, and call for the pilots to have an hour or so of what we call desktop training or computer training. the pilots were not instructed, the airlines were not instructed to put their pilots through any simulator training where you'd have hands on feeling of this stick shaker when this system went off that malfunctioned, the system as we'...

World would want to look at the black box and also get evidence just from the radio transmissions. a lot of times when you take recordings of the radio transmissions into the lab you can also pick up whether or not there's a warning system or a thing called a stick shaker. it rattles to let the pilots know they're in a stalled position. if it looks like this is similar to the lion-air, yes, i think at that point they ought to seriously consider grounding all the 737 max aircraft. >> and allen, what can you tell us about the airline itself? >> well, ethiopia has a tremendous reputation. they're...