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Cia used to come to the conclusion, whatever conclusion it was about the russian hacking. both of those things, both of our human intel, that means people could die if we give up names and stuff. and the technical stuff, we would be revealing to the russians, they could kind of reengineer it to figure out how we figured that out. we would be revealing to them how we get information from them. we want to keep as much of that secret as possible. congress and the executive powers have ways to do that but if you release it publicly it is kind of risky. sandra: i don't know, dagen, we've been chatt...

Exists in this region. and if we want to help the refugees, the thing to do to help them, is to stabilize the region, to win this war. to make it so they want to stay home instead of millions of them trying to come to europe or to come to the united states. if we want to help these people, let's create a stable environment for them. that's the most important thing we could do and it's not talked about any longer. >> because of your past with the b-1 bomber, let me close on a question to you about this air war. general barry mccaffery was joined by severals on television expressing the need for...

Of how highly valued their work is. dough worked in the advancement division in the '80s and was involved in sending agents to the u.s., south cree wkorea and. there could be hundreds of agents in the united states at any time. they concentrate on americans who lean towards supporting north korea. then they try to recruit them by offering free visas to pyongyang, and using women to entice them. it may sound like a throw back to the cold war era but north korea hasn't really moved on from that time and with limited resourceets and ways of gathering intelligence on what it considers to be enemy ...

President said it will not do this. reserve the right to do something defensive powers i have. but the other thing is the player administration was granted all the human intel. people are upset with gitmo. we are dealing with different type of war. after 9/11 the cia was called to the hill by republicans and democrats and said they were told do whatever it takes to make sure this never happens again. years later after the cia has been successful, now they turn around and say we did not say to do that. there's going to be long-term damage to the democrats to come protecting the american people....

Confirm? that's the way most investigations go. they have informer, someone on the inside saying look, this is what happened. look here. look there do you have that? you don't have to tell me who it is. do you have it? >> i wouldn't say even if we did. >> oh, come on, let me just tell you in the earliest interviews we quickly discredited from that irs employees themselves that this was just a rogue activity out of cincinnati or dallas went to washington. we quickly discredited the thought that progressive organizations were targeted as well. and so, in this investigation, so far we have knocke...