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Barack obama. she is a fox news contributor. gillian turner is here. she's a talk show host, writer. jamila bey is here. thank you both for being here. gillian, your reaction. what you want to say to the people of houston. >> gillian: it's been a heartbreaking day. today we've gotten, for the first time, things we haven't been seeing in the last couple days. health care facilities like hospitals, elderly nursing homes. heartbreaking images, the one that went viral this morning of the elderly women trapped in their care center. in their wheelchairs with water to their elbows and shoulders. from...

Mitochondrial dna replacement program? >> there is one that tries to learn more by seeing this baby, but in general the talk of transfer happens in these cases, but then when you come down to it, it really doesn't happen. the transfer turns out not to be possible for one reason or another, the baby may not survive the transfer. i'm afraid really what we're talking about now is keeping the baby comfortable, and as the doctors seem to believe, making sure that the baby does not suffer unnecessarily. >> finally, from a sheer human standpoint, and i know we're both thinking of the parents here, th...

Politics as usual here. but unfortunately, it's sunk to a whole new level. >> only one party, and especially one person, gains from this so-called health care reform bill. the president will be able to show how he was able to accomplish something against all odds. >> after weeks of closed-door, clandestine negotiations, senator reid finally emerged with a 383-page christmas list. this bill is a dark example of everything that is wrong with washington today. >> they want to push through here. they want to finish it before the christmas holiday. they want to get this in the rearview mirror befor...

Unfortunately, it's sunk to a whole new level. >> only one party and especially one person gains from this so-called health care reform bill. the president will be able to show how he was able to accomplish something against all odds. >> after weeks of closed door clandestine negotiations, senator reid finally emerged with a 383-page christmas list. this bill is a dark example of everything that is wrong with washington today. >> they want to push through here and finish it before the christmas holiday and get this in the rearview mirror before the american people have an opportunity to see wh...

And longtime radio talk show host in the wisconsin charlie sykes. gentlemen, welcome. michael, just from a television standpoint, they make it too easy. that's an open net. >> i know. >> that's due diligence. we have to do that. that's very basic. so from a human standpoint as i keep saying here night after night, real americans are scared to death about the status and future of their health care. michael, what's about to happen and what should happen? >> well, i think what's about to happen is going to be not that much far removed from what is already happened with the house bill. and that is...