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More illegal immigration. the way this ends kevin mccarthy led this commitment to america in the house republicans commitment to america is our plan to secure the border. there has to be enforcement of our laws. otherwise we are just going to continue to see the chaos. like one of the opeds mentioned 2023 could be the worst year yet. >> molly: the shelters are packed to capacity. migrants sleeping on the streets under blankets from the red cross. the biden administration talking about answers. the city has spent $10 million in taxpayer money giving aid to migrants that poured over the border. ...

We need a coherent, sensible, humane process for asylum seekers. let's remember, the visions of the horses and the whips, rounding up haitian asylum seekers at the border last year and shipping them back. look, for me, black lives matter, but all black lives should matter when it comes to america and asylum seekers. so we need a process. what do we need, jose? look, we need visas so that people can come to this country and be reunited with their families, so they can come and work. how about a work visa that they can come and work legally to this country? we need asylum officers who can be the...

Real quick final thought, senator, i'm sorry. >> you have to give me at least a fair shot. >> sandra: go ahead. >> the amount of money you are paying on the leases under trump, biden, obama, bush, is a tiny, tiny fraction of what the potential value would be. so i think if you want to say, if you are going to sit on these public or private leases and you've got to pay a little more, you have to couple that with a faster permitting process. and i would say, and this is one i think you guys and i would probably agree, i don't understand where the biden administration is not trumpeted more, they ...

Produce energy. >> sandra, here is what again, i was a business guy longer than i've been a politician. i'll match my business credentials and market knowledge against any of the guys and gals i work with. many of these companies, because getting these leases is a very cheap process. you can sit on those leases virtually forever. i have no problem if the president says all right, on some of these leases we are going to require you to either do something with them or pony up additional fee to hold that asset in reserve. what i would also say biden administration, if you are going to propose tha...

No changes until you are ready to execute and coordinate a comprehensive plan to ensure a secure, humane process at the border, and administration is expected to announce that title 42 will be lifted by the end of may. sandra. >> john: it's john here. i want to ask you a quick question before we let you go. you asked kate beddingfield yesterday if the white house wanted ukraine to win and she danced around the question. a few moments ago john kirby said yes, definitely we want ukraine to win. that's different than what has been said so far. >> it's certainly different and significant it's comi...