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>> greg ebbstein is certainly good without god. he wrote the best selling book and has been harvard's humanist chaplain for a decade. so what is humanism? >> it's being a good human being and working at being a good human being without a concept that we have any sort of supernatural powers to guide us or tell us what to do. >> humanists, atheists, skeptics, free thinker. isn't that all the same thing? >> it's all one community. >> a community that gathers here at harvard's humanist hub. a secular community with its own space. >> are you getting any pushback though? this is harvard. it's a huge...

Believe. but he's just not there yet. it's so compelling. we met a preacher who is out of the closet. he has hey huge congregation, and he's good with it. he went through the same type of mental torture, even desperation and contemplating suicide. but he actually has been able to come to grips with this and has a packed house every sunday. >> then we were just talking about this during the commercial break. you were saying there is now, of at all places, at harvard university, you can go if you feel so compelled -- you hear of di vinty school. it's with a twist. >> the divinity school at harva...