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presented with evidence about what happened, and she came to the conclusion that he falls into the category of those who would be disqualified, but for the fact of the office that he seeks, or the office that he once held and the oath that he took. and so i think that's relevant. certainly, maybe not in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, the idea that this looks like insurrection and he looks like an insurrectionist, i think is very relevant. >> thank you to both of you. i actually have a lot more to discuss with you, but this is the way things go these days. melissa...

harvard's laurence tribe and the retired conservative federal judge jay michael luttig, declared that the constitution prohibits trump from ever being president again, based on section three of the 14th amendment. since then, there's been movement in court in multiple states where efforts have sprung up to enforce the 14th amendment. one case, seeking to disqualify trump was dismissed by the minnesota supreme court, but that case was specific to trump being on the primary election ballot for the republican nomination, so the argument could be brought before the court again for the ge...