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Are you building your infrastructure? are you able to, you know, keep growing that base of support? that's what's real critical for him. >> charlie, there athere are a democrats coming out hard after joe biden and one of the biggest things he had to fix was his prior support for the hyde amendment which, as you know, bans federal funds for abortion. he reversed that several days ago, but as a front-runner, as he tries to fend off these other 22 candidates, charlie, do expect biden to be targeted every step of the way for each one of these missteps? >> i do believe that the vice president or fo...

He should have taken that position all along. the hyde amendment which, you know, prevented funding for abortion, most disproportionately affected poor women, so he was wrong all those years, in my view, and, you know, if, honestly, if it takes change and a new day to get people to turn around, i'm okay with that. i care about where they are now, but he was clearly wrong all those two years. >> i mean, listen, there's no question that within the party, right, that the party that is for pro-choice, pro-choice party, that this puts him more in line with his party. so was this -- what was this al...

Reverse course on it. is this the right move and what is the political fallout? >> yeah, well, it's clearly the right move because it's the right position to take. he should have taken that position all along. the hyde amendment which, you know, prevented funding for abortion, most disproportionately affected poor women, so he was wrong all those years, in my view, and, you know, if, honestly, if it takes change and a new day to get people to turn around, i'm okay with that. i care about where they are now, but he was clearly wrong all those two years. >> i mean, listen, there's no question th...

Explain their evolution on issues, we saw it with al gore on tobacco, on guns. i just don't think that for a candidate running in the democratic primary in 2020 that support for the hyde amendment which, you know, is discriminatory against poor women, it's not, i think, within the party seen as necessarily a government involvement versus no government involvement, but, again, discriminatory according to income is a tenable position that a candidate can take. >> yeah, and already, nancy, i mean, protecting roe v. wade was a litmus test for democrats, we knew that, biden has reaffirmed his suppo...

Years yet to address this aspect of that bill. megyn: i read the executive order, i don't see it clearly, as you stated, but i will tell you this, that the prochoice groups have come out and they believe, they say, this is from planned parenthood, when the -- what the president's executive order did not do is include the complete and total ban on private health coverage for abortion that congressman stupak, they're thankful for that and saying we have a long standing objection to the hyde amendment and hope to go repeal the hyde amendment which, in other words, the prochoice groups don't think...