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Network saying declaring a national emergency when there's none is not good for the president to do and i don't think it's good for a precedent. a lot of republicans share that view, a can of worms has been tipped over. >> it has. it has. again, it's going to have some effect on the vote. is question is how big an effect and is it a meaningful effect. >> shepard: jonathan, you're the best. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. >> shepard: mike emanuel on capitol hill. mike, what are you hearing? >> shep, you mentioned senator chuck grassley. i should note this morning after the morning pray...

Defend defender. being accused of sexual harassment contemporaneous to the same 1990s period -- >> i'm talking to a human archive. how did you remember that? how did you remember he defended herman cain? >> he was telling the "national review" that, you know, "politico" shouldn't have written a story about it because now men are afraid to make jokes in the workplace. there's plenty of google-worthy hypocrisy charges out there waiting for him should he become the nominee. i do think he is doing something politically smart which is saying best asset for the democrats is bill clinton, i'm going t...

>> hypocrisy. he was herman cain's biggest defender. being accused of sexual harassment contemporaneous to the same 1990s period -- >> i'm talking to a human archive. how did you remember that? how did you remember he defended herman cain? >> he was telling the "national review" that, you know, "politico" shouldn't have written a story about it because now men are afraid to make jokes in the workplace. there's plenty of google-worthy hypocrisy charges out there waiting for him should he become the nominee. i do think he is doing something politically smart which is saying best asset for the de...

>> neil: ed henry on how the white house is responding to hypocrisy charges. how is the white house going to handle this? >> they would much rather talk about their allegation mitt romney was outsourcing at bain capital, enabling them to make the election a choice instead of a referendum on the president's record. jobs and the economy. on the dead issue -- debt issue, the pushback is the president, during debt ceiling talks, locked in $2 trillion long term in deficit reductions and like to point out that the president, when he came into office, had all kinds of things like unpaid wars in iraq ...

>> bill: that's a good point. >> stimulus the word doesn't exist. >> bill: can't defend their record so they have to make up stuff about me. and i think that's probably the way that romney campaign will go. but they open themselves up for hypocrisy charges, too. the romney people do. because of the way they went negative against santorum and gingrich in the primary which they did. they went particularly in florida. boom, boom, boom, boom. romney going to be hard to take the high ground, is it not? >> no, i don't think so. i think there are two kinds of negative campaigning. there is add homony...