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A lower level staffer, let's say he was a woman or a conservative like, i don't know, rick santorum. does he get away with this? that is a rhetorical question for the bottom line is, cnn is a boys club. 8:00 p.m., 9:00 p.m., 11:00 p.m. that isn't the case at fox and it's not even the case at msnbc. this is where we are right now. >> jeanine: joe, it is just amazing to me that someone would be on a zoom call and actually do that. i don't care if they can see you or they don't see you. and he says, i don't know, i wasn't thinking. yeah, you were thinking about something else. what were you doing...

Does he get away with this? that is a rhetorical question for theom bottom line is, cnn ia boys club. 8:00 p.m., 9:00 p.m., 11:00 p.m. that isn't the case at fox and it's not even the case at msnbc. this is where we are right now. >> jeanine: joe, it is just amazing to me that someone would be on a zoom call and actually do that. i don't care if they can see you or they don't see you. and he says, i don't know, i wasn't thinking. yeah, you were thinking about something else. what were you doing on the callc to begin with? i mean, it's just so unfathomable. what is your reaction? >> listen, if ...

But he won't be getting into the hot tub today. >> so did you bring your swim trunks. >> no. >> no, what did you bring? >> nothing. >> why did you come here today? >> it was stupid, i should have known better, she is a baby. >> he says he really wasn't going to do anything with her. his chat log seems to say otherwise. >> you say that you're a pretty normal horny old man, and i would love to make wild passionate love to you? >> oh god. >> i'm trying to understand why you thought it was a good idea to come over here to visit a 13-year-old girl? >> i don't know, i wasn't thinking. >> you sent th...