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On defence secretary ben wallace saying he won't stand at the next election and warning of war on three fronts. and the observer has starmer telling the labour party, we can't spend our way back to power. andrea, let's start with you on ben wallace. he's a very well respected minister in the conservative party, it's not a great vote of confidence in rishi sunak. he a great vote of confidence in rishi sunak. �* , ., , ., sunak. he said, he's had several ears in sunak. he said, he's had several years in the _ sunak. he said, he's had several years in the job. _ sunak. he said, he's had several...

Taxpayers' money? could do, could borrow as well. rowing _ taxpayers' money? could do, could borrow as well. rowing has - taxpayers' money? could do, could borrow as well. rowing has been . borrow as well. rowing has been higher— borrow as well. rowing has been higher than— borrow as well. rowing has been higher than recently— borrow as well. rowing has been higher than recently but - higher than recently but historically— higher than recently but historically its _ higher than recently but historically its low - higher than recently but historically its low and i higher than recently ...

Will be on the minds of many public sector workers. those recommendations will be subject to negotiation and i don't helpful for me to wade into that. flat negotiation and i don't helpful for me to wade into that.— negotiation and i don't helpful for me to wade into that. not saying yes or no to his — me to wade into that. not saying yes or no to his rivals' _ me to wade into that. not saying yes or no to his rivals' attempt _ me to wade into that. not saying yes or no to his rivals' attempt to - me to wade into that. not saying yes or no to his rivals' attempt to end - or no to his rivals...

Labour isn't going to be a party of big spending, is that right? i think what's interesting _ big spending, is that right? i think what's interesting is _ big spending, is that right? i think what's interesting is spending - big spending, is that right? i think what's interesting is spending is l what's interesting is spending is going _ what's interesting is spending is going to — what's interesting is spending is going to be tight whoever is in government over the next couple of years _ government over the next couple of years but _ government over the next couple of years but i— governm...

Not going to be the case this time. accept there are _ not going to be the case this time. accept there are economists - not going to be the case this time. accept there are economists and l accept there are economists and politicians on the left of the labour party, and on the right of the conservative party, they would say all of this centrist stuff in the middle where everybody says let's be careful, it's not going to match the scale of the challenge. i match the scale of the challenge. i think a centrist answer might be one of the _ think a centrist answer might be one of the impediments _...