Materials, and we don't have the answer at this point. >> ali, tyler, as always, thank you so much for being with us. i want to bring in democrat texas congresswoman, jasmine -- congresswoman, you have been with us throughout this news. it seems to me implicit in ian sam laying out the ways in which this white house has cooperated with the doj a clear contrast that they are trying to build here. >> absolutely, i mean when you think about it, when we look at crimes, let me give a quick example, we all possibly walked out of the store with our hands accidentally, and we go back and turn it in. i...