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President released or the white house released, thinking that this was somehow exculpatory, is going to exonerate him. you can't read that and think any other way. it is what it is. >> i thought you were going to leave it to them. >> no, no, no. i'm not saying they should impeach him, but people who are saying, there's nothing in there. he didn't mean anything. there's no quid pro quo. we're not stupid. the impeachment part, that's for the politicians to decide. i'm strictly talking about the evidence and the way that letter reads. >> right. >> and also the text messages coming out. my goodnes...

Don't talk about it, they just talk about family. >> impeachment gets him closer in touch with the democratic base. the candidate who has the most favor with the base right now or at least throughout the summer has been elizabeth warren. joe biden says this. >> america has enormous possibilities. they're limitless. i want to take that vision, and yes, take the plans. but that's not enough. it takes proven ability to get things done. we're not electing a planner. >> hello, senator warren. right? >> i think it shows that thaey'e reading the polls we're seeing and that's his challenge there. he h...

Generate in enthusiasm. not just the impeachment part. you will hear testimony, and it's going to lead democrats to believe it was more wrongdoing than they saw. >> melissa: so why does joe biden stay away from it? obviously he's doing things right. he's way out in front and he is somebody we haven't heard from today, as the other 2020 hopefuls have piled on. >> i think joe biden has done something different. not saying which side i'm on on the democratic party, but i will tell you i'm a democrat. he's taking the middle ground. he has always been taking a middle ground and he is trying to to t...

That sort of launguage -- >> it's the impeachment part? >> absolutely. i think the foul language, i mean, look -- >> he knows we have a president who has many, many tapes, transcripts, of using foul language. >> i don't care about the president's language. i don't care. >> really quick -- >> ill peampeachment is overrea. they need to talk about infrastructure and health care and things americans care about and let mueller handle the impeachment issues for now. >> the one thing i don't want to get overshadowed -- >> mueller's not going to handle the impeachment. it's up to congress what to do. ...

Less than what we saw in 2006, i mean it arguably shows kind of where harry is right now in his forecast, where democrats will pick up seats. >> can i ask you something, mark? >> sure. >> okay. so 2006, though, wasn't that the obama effect? obama was running on the ticket, and people were excited about democrats because they were excited in some sense about obama. >> 2008. >> gotcha. >> we saw that, but we saw republicans stumble and democrats seize power when we saw going back to 2006. but basically what we're seeing right now is democrats going to take back the house of representatives and w...