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Situation. just like the first president who was catholic, jfk, who drew a line between -- he said catholicism affected his moral positions but not his political positions. president biden has said although he believes in the catholic church's views on abortion, he would not let that affect his political views. >> the country is still reeling from the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. you say the crises of the past year haven't translated into action on transformative legislation. is there any kind of historical precedent for what we're witnessing in our country right now? >> it's absolu...

Absolutely to make major changes in the policy and direction of the country. is he engaged internationally and interested in policy as president obama was or does he have the depth of experience across the board as the bush administration did, the answer is no but i think he's interested in making changes. >> he talked to angela merkle and le pen. do you think president obama liked the job? >> i think president obama liked it. he saw it as a great historical framework and challenge and time to make his imprint on history and rally the country for big causes, legacy of obamacare and his other s...