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Committed -- we could talk about what that is -- there is a long list. and you do nothing to tell the authorities, and you could take steps to conceal it, like, making up a story, a cover story about the trump tower meeting. >> martha: tell me what the crime is, richard. >> it's defrauding the united states government and the people of a fair election, 18 usc 371. have your viewers look it up. and, incidentally, we are not just talking about the russians, we are talking about tax fraud and money laundering, and bank fraud -- >> here we go. >> martha: hold on. you can't -- you are talking about...
Over several years for border security. he's already told the democrats he would give them 1.82 million doctoral recipients who could say, that got cut down. any help that he could accomplish that on that front before the end of the term? >> there is a deal to be had and what you get border funding in the exchange for dealing with the daca issue, the young immigrants who came here as children enter never have lived anywhere else. i think most people think it is reasonable to have them stay. but under current law, they are really not supposed to. so that is a deal that that ise to be had. the q...
I try to impeach him on that -- >> martha: which could be a campaign violation, which is usually a fine. >> it wouldn't necessarily be a campaign finance violation because he may not -- it is not an open and shut case. the fact that the president has not testified before mueller, you cannot -- i'm not a lawyer -- but jonathan can confirm this, the fact that you are not willing to testify does not prove that you are guilty. so the idea that somehow -- i hope that the democrats -- the nightmare for democrats right now is that mueller comes up with no evidence of a criminal conspiracy with russia...
And their mother's womb. this is amazing. 60 million -- if you want to know, we have so many people immigrating into the country just to supply jobs. a lot of it is, we've aborted our workforce over the past 45 years. think about that. 60 million people that would be in our workforce were never seen the light of day. that is pretty tragic, martha. i think every time we can put a new hindrance on the wholesale slaughter of unborn children, it is a step for a more civilized culture and society. >> martha: governor, thank you for being here tonight. we will see where this case goes and we will ke...