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Government shutdown over the trump wall which would in one level be shut down over congress's favor to pay for the wall. is it a really a shutdown over mexico's failure? >> yes. if you follow president trump who said mexico you better believe is going to bay for the wall. we know congress is not going to pay for the wall and even worse, lawrence, it's not just probably going to lead to a government shutdown, it's probably going to lead to -- and i hope this doesn't happen, the first ever crashing through the debt ceiling of the united states. that is infin nitly more dangerous than shutting do...

Ceiling of the united states. that is infin nitly more dangerous than shoutiutting dowe government. crashing through the debt ceiling where the united states dollar is the global currency, you not only destroy our financial system you destroy the global financial system. >> are mitch mcconnel going to allow mexico to shut down the american government over the trump wall? >> well, i think it would be trump's shortsightedness to profit that he could do that. there were several of us in congress that proposed a bill to require operational control of our border, south, north, east and west. it was...