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There's no question. he's the vice president. he's still young. he's either running in '20 or '24. but let's not overlook the fact that mike pence is tainted by all things donald trump. every time he stands up and says it's his high honor to introduce the president of the united states, that means he is supporting the president of the united states. i will say this. there's going to be a lot more people than mike pence running for president. you're going to see a lot of republican politicians at university of iowa football games this fall and next fall. no question about it. >> quick break. wh...

Without ever having to run. and so everybody may be looking to who is going to run in the next election in 2020. >> jill wine-banks, thank you very much for joining us. jeremy, please stick around for another segment. really appreciate it. coming up, the president's new chief of staff could not stop the president from a flood of twitter activity this morning when he was watching tv as usual. and republicans are promising tax cuts, but at town halls, they are still getting questions about health care. and tonight, a question about the trump wall that was not answered the way donald trump want...

Ceiling of the united states. that is infin nitly more dangerous than shoutiutting dowe government. crashing through the debt ceiling where the united states dollar is the global currency, you not only destroy our financial system you destroy the global financial system. >> are mitch mcconnel going to allow mexico to shut down the american government over the trump wall? >> well, i think it would be trump's shortsightedness to profit that he could do that. there were several of us in congress that proposed a bill to require operational control of our border, south, north, east and west. it was...

Year, it would probably be a little over $2 billion, which honestly doesn't build a wall. it doesn't build a wall. i mean it's a 12 to $20 billion fee. $20 billion fee. as we look at that -- so as -- well, mexico i don't think is paying for it. >> a virtual fence. how much does a virtual fence cost? we learned donald trump never believed what he was saying about mexico paying for the wall on the southern border. leaders on capitol hill are worried it could shut down the government next month when congress has a pass a spending bill. no one sees trump's wall getting much more than a symbolic no...

Least effective way to do border security. >> many republicans in texas don't think the border wall is a great idea. we may be headed for a government shutdown over the trump wall which would in one level be shut down over congress's favor to pay for the wall. is it a really a shutdown over mexico's failure? >> yes. if you follow president trump who said mexico you better believe is going to bay for the wall. we know congress is not going to pay for the wall and even worse, lawrence, it's not just probably going to lead to a government shutdown, it's probably going to lead to -- and i hope thi...