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Different in its quality or you know, it is just, it is more interesting version of what the president is telling us. >> that's a great point. and there is also the fact that people are getting, being told at the rally by the president, don't read "new york times." listen to me. and you choke off one information source and this is what you get. >> people who believe in q anon, if you believe in it, you are unmoored from what is going on in the world culmination of decades of attacks on the media and independent sources of truth. and you end up with these dangerous situations like you mentioned...

Realize now with all the press is the certain members of the press work for the democratic party. and the law fair blog is one of them. every day there's a new attack. i don't put a lot of credibility into what they say. the fact of the matter is you have to present verified information to the court. let's not forget, to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a campaign, unprecedented. but then to use these invasive types of capabilities on an american citizen that should be very, very seldom used. in this case, not only did they use it, but they used it with information from the oth...

Is one day of pretty mild criticism. >> that doesn't appear to change. because their purpose is not so much media or criticism. it's to support the president. >> what makes it especially dangerous and sinister, it's a siloed out network. you have a third of americans that are solely watching this information source. unlike in the nixon era, where there were a limited number of options, people only get their news from fox news. as you have additional revelations, addition will indictments that come out, additional information reported on this probe that shows clear-cut between this presidency a...

And homeland security chief jeh johnson first made their public warnings to the states. >> i know that you can't talk about some of the stuff. i know you've given classified testimony on there. am i right at the state department in your senior role there, you were actually shown parts of christopher steele's so-called dossier, these memos he wrote that were research on trump and russia, you saw that before it was published. >> what happened was that during the ukraine crisis, steele had been working for a number of private clients and he was doing a lot of work on the relationship between russ...

Working for a number of private clients, and he was doing a lot of work on the relationship between russia and ukraine and reporting on the back channels between them to settle the ukraine crisis. so i got to know his work because he offered it to us as an information source. so i was reading his stuff in 2014, 2015. so then when he got this information in 2016, a friend of his who was at the state department brought a piece of it to us and my immediate reaction at that time was this goes to u.s. politics. this is not our business at the state department. this is the fbi's business. so we noti...