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Wrong, we may have had a different conversation, i dont know the out come of that conversation, but our assertion of the privacy rights was bolstered by the fact that we felt that the alleged injustice was sort of in hand, if that makes sense. And so. Any other questions for miss ballard . Or mr. Warren . If i may, mr. Chair, there have been a number of references to the City Attorneys Good Government guide and the references have been on page 89 of our appendix. And the part relating to privacy and it gives, and it gives some examples but the document itself is an advisory document and it has...

Case in hand but primarily that the issue that mr. Maionchi was attempting to shed light on was already being addressed there was a transfer of a birth from an existing owner who was delinquent on his rent, to a new ownership group. And essentially the existing owner tried to inaudible the new owners and sell him something and actually transfer the boat or the birth. Through the work of our harbor master working with his exwife and the coast guard was able to remedy that situation and the rightful owners got the boat and the lease and there was no money lost in the transaction. And so then, bu...

Gonna set the night on Fire Task Force fire make it happen thank you. applause good afternoon. My name is jeffery king. I am a First Amendment lawyer specializing in [speaker not understood] Government Matters. I am a journalist who is an enthusiastic and frequent utilizer of the California Public records act and the San Francisco sunshine ordinance. A huge part of [speaker not understood] which includes open Government Matters and, of course, im here in my capacity as the freedom of Information Committee, [speaker not understood] society of professional journalists which i served since 2011. ...

Find a nonwillful violation or a willful violation but i dont think that tonight, you can find a nonwillful violation by someone else in the rec and Park Department. Base ed on the chapter three, we could find the nonwillful violation of mr. Ginsburg. Right. Under three, the votes of at least three commissioners are required to make a finding that they have created a willful violation or a nonwillful violation. But i think that if you are going to talk about someone other than general manager ginsburg that is beyond the scope of what tonight is for. I have a question for mr. Pilpal. And i agre...

Department head is under different rules and regulations that is where we need to, that is why we are under Chapter Three and the burden is on the complainant, and so on and so forth. If this is a nonwillful violation by someone, who is not a Department Head, and then the sunshine ordinance the task force, will make their decision, and refer the matter and it is going to be presumed that it is a violation, unless the respondent carries the burden that it is not. And so i think that the upshot of this, if we were to find that there was no willful violation, by mr. Ginsburg that this would go ba...