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Are looking at it through the idea is to see what people in power over you what they think, what they think you should be doing, or what they are planning to do to you, your budget, or whatever. so you can try to counteract it before it actually happens. >> tucker: >> tucker: i mean, tt east german pier that's got to be illegal. i can't believe that is illegal. >> no, it isn't. >> tucker: right. the oversight committees are supposed be providing that stuff. i remember having a conversation with a former republican chairman of the oversight committee, mikeormee rogers and saying this is ag big ...

Liberation army which declared outright explicit war on cops in the 1970s. and this woman has never been held to account. abby: all right. clayton: michelle malkin great work on that. abby: thanks for being here, michelle. >> take care. clayton: may be evidence obama administration wiretapped trump tower and then walked it back. now one nsa whistleblower is. abby: saved a choking friend's life we reporterred on this yesterday using the heimlich maneuver. would you know what to do in that situation? remember i asked you about it yesterday you said you both did. i'm going to put you to the test ...

The nsa is not a country. to whom they report i want everything have you on x. aren't they required to give it to them? >> yes. but, again, he will never know if they do. because they don't necessarily have to do that internally. you see, you had nunes and others saying that they never really got to see the raw data. so it's a question of whether or not they pull out the raw data and give him that data or anything, reports generated off that. they don't have to. and they have been lying to them for consistently for a very long time. >> tucker: this is a shocking interview. i appreciate it, bil...

Speculating. you believe it's entirely possible the president was, in fact, spied on? >> yes, in fact, they are taking in fundamentally the entire fiber network inside the united states and collecting all that data and storing it in a program for -- they call it it's stellar wind is the name for their program. that's the domestic collection of data on u.s. citizens. u.s. citizens to other u.s. citizens. everything we are doing. phone calls, emails and financial transactions. credit cards, things like that. all of it. >> tucker: so if you found someone objectionable or dangerous, the temptation...

People that have power over you or what they think, what they think you should be doing or what they are planning to do to you, your budget, or whatever. so you can try to counteract it before it actually happens. >> tucker: i mean, that's just east german. that's got to be illegal. i do not believe that is legal. the oversight committees. >> no, it isn't. >> tucker: right. are supposed to be preventing that stuff. i remember having a conversation with a former republican chairman of the oversight committee, mike rogers and saying this is a big deal and getting an answer in effect terrorism. t...