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>> obviously the biggest benefit is the intelligence value that he has. ironically yuf, that's one of the bigger reasons that the mexican government didn't want to give him up for extradition when he was caught in february 2014. the mexican government was somewhat upset that the u.s. government hadn't shared more intelligence from other individuals that had been extradited before. obviously, the importance and value of guzman as an intelligence asset, i guess you could say, kind of trumps the concerns about mexico's sovereignty in that regard. >> we're learning more about "el chapo's" time on ...

Here? >> for one, they can get good information. one reason they refused to extradite him when he was caught back in february of 2014, they were upset we had not shared any intelligence information with them before on individuals extradited to the united states. hopefully that will change. it's significant because we can keep him in prison, send him to a super max facility where we're holding many other king pen and drug trafficking vips in florence, colorado, but i think the intelligence value is probably the most significant benefit we would get. >> at the same sometime, nick, if i could bri...

Welcome back to "america's newsroom." you've been call fog are appointment of a special counsel. ance her famous query, at this point what would it make, senator? >> how many private emails on the private email server and does that jeopardize intelligence value. we know her server was target of adversaries of united states. we don'ts know how much the intelligence was sacrificed in the with our foreign policy operatives or negotiations around the world because she was so reckless to have on a private email server. bill: that is excellent point. the fbi is still investigating. would a special c...

Nonsense, what he says. informs combat. my condolences to the family of master sergeant wheeler. look, if people are shooting at you and you're returning fire, that -- i'm a soldier. that's considered combat. with that said, this was not simply about rescuing 70 hostages. i knew this and others have heard this before. the intelligence value of these raids is humongous. it's unimaginable. so as he said, it was not simply about rescuing these 70 folks, it's about the fact that we get a huge, essentially, a cornucopia of intelligence that we can then exploit and do more. >> and that, you're sayin...

Reason. they kept them there because they were either of intelligence value, they were breaking the rules and bad prisoners or they were continuing threat to the united states. there's the three main reasons that each one of those guys would get reviewed every year to make sure that they really need to be detained. so they break five of these guys free. one of the worst possible deals that ever could have been made when everybody knew that these guys were bad, bad news. >> what do you think finally's going to happen? >> i think they're going to walk and it's like the state department said you ...