nonsense, what he says. informs combat. my condolences to the family of master sergeant wheeler. look, if people are shooting at you and you're returning fire, that -- i'm a soldier. that's considered combat. with that said, this was not simply about rescuing 70 hostages. i knew this and others have heard this before. the intelligence value of these raids is humongous. it's unimaginable. so as he said, it was not simply about rescuing these 70 folks, it's about the fact that we get a huge, essentially, a cornucopia of intelligence that we can then exploit and do more. >> and that, you're saying, is what precipitates, because they get so many documents, computers, et cetera, it my tell them more about other places? >> what the now chairman of the joints chief is re-looking the entire policy. there was a number of these options already on the shelf before general dunford showed up. i think general dunford is now aggressively relooki ining what can do and should do.