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With a traditional president it would be much higher. >> he should be at 55%. i could argue, even in our polarized times somewhere between 50 and 55 if he doesn't have russia and sort of the personal character stuff. >> on the approval rating office partisan decide. but on the russia investigation it's interesting there are so many americans who withholding judgment. i think that's the way thingsed used to be. >> do you know what it also tells you they are not paying toengs to the day to day. they have essentially said we are -- there is a lot going on there and we are going to wait and see. w...

So you're beginning to see the intensity factor. i have no idea what they for. they are betting on the republicans bouncing their ball off the foot and they will win the game that way. i believe it will be a democrat year but it could be a big year if they stood for something. they are all screwed up too. the left wing is really dominating them like the right wing is dominating a republican party. >> when you say suburban women voters are trending the other way because they don't like what they sai see what do you mean? >> first language. >> they don't like harsh language. they don't like divi...

And andrea, i'll just point to looking at how president trump fared in alabama, his approval rating was split 47% approve, 47% disapprove, but when you break those numbers in intensity factor, you see 43% disapproved against those who strongly approved. in alabama that is a rough number for republicans going into the midterms regardless of whether they pass this tax legislation or not. >> vaughn is down in alabama. vaughn, i was struck by the fact that doug jones went with his victory announcement last night was talking about economic issues. talking about the sort of kitchen table issues that...

But i do think the democrats are treading on thin ice in another key respect. they can overplay this. and you're already starting to hear them hammer this point a lot. harry reid goes to the floor of the senate almost every single day and brings up the koch brothers. and yes, it raises money for them. democrats will tell you, they get back a lot more money than if they don't mention the kochs at all, but in the same way republicans hammer issues like benghazi and the irs, people start to tune that out. it becomes kind of a base-only issue. and i think it has limited effectiveness after a while...

They can overplay this. and you're already starting to hear them hammer this point a lot. harry reid goes to the floor of the senate almost every single day and brings up the koch brothers. and yes, it raises money for them. democrats will tell you, they get back a lot more money than if they don't mention the kochs at all, but in the same way pruchbs hammer issues like benghazi and the irs, people start to tune that out. it becomes kind of a base-only issue. and i think it has limited effectiveness after a while. >> except that this is going to be a base election. and i'm telling you, look at...