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Experiment was going to end, it was fear of physical pain and suffering. >> what about that these interrogations produced nothing useful? >> here's a good test for senator feinstein, if that is true, then pass legislation ordering cia to destroy all the intelligence. there are thousands of interrogation prorts that have been produced that we are using to this very day. barack obama is using intelligence from cia interrogations. just two weeks ago al qaeda operational commander, was killed in pakistan. you know how we found out who he was? the interrogation of abu zubaydah and ksm. they identif...

>> but isn't there a difference between a journalist and a military person saying it will end when they say it will end. ksm also knew how long they were going to do it and that it was going to end. >> that's not what broke him, actually. it was sleep deprivation that broke him in the end. and if an american serviceman was going through and having his legs burned with hot cigarettes or being electrocuted or some of these other tactics, it wouldn't matter if they knew if the experiment was going to end, it was fear of physical pain and suffering. >> what about that these interrogations produced...