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Them. and where -- to belabor the metaphor, we're at a moment in our politics today where everybody is on one team or the other. it is a ferociously tribal moment. you cheer or you -- you hiss depending on which side of the stadium you are on. and senator john mccain lived up to the great american tradition of using reason as the approach to different issues. so yes, he was a ferocious critic of the war on terror, more of the harsher interrogation techniques for the obvious biographical reasons. but george w. bush had no more loyal supporter for his iraq policy than john mccain. i remember sit...

>> no. we used to think of him as kind of the umpire of american life. he would call them as he saw them. and where -- to belabor the metaphor, we're at a moment in our politics today where everybody is on one team or the other. it is a ferociously tribal moment. you cheer or you -- you hiss depending on which side of the stadium you are on. and senator john mccain lived up to the great american tradition of using reason as the approach to different issues. so yes, he was a ferocious critic of the war on terror, more of the harsher interrogation techniques for the obvious biographical reasons....

Teenagers to crimes they maybe didn't commit. in fact, to prevent that very thing police departments in many other countries banned or dispenlsed years ago with interrogation techniques still used in america. had the murder happened elsewhere -- for example, here in the unite it kingdom, it is probable robert still would have brought in for questioning. he was after all named always a suspect in the case. but the chances that he would have been charged or even interviewed for very long, close to zero. >> the interview as it is on the recording would not be legal in the uk and that evidence wou...

Security policy. you go back to the bush administration post 9/11. the briefings that happened with the gang of six with regard to interrogation techniques. the safe program. all of which were highly controversial. a bipartisan group was ready, they were briefed, and there was consensus there. it didn't mean it didn't unravel later. you are using the mechanism of congressional oversight, throwing it out the window so we can't even agree on the basics of a process here. of that is going to become politicized. it's really dangerous. the other piece, this just doesn't add up. i want to be clear. ...

Tweeted earlier today, courting judge andrew napolitano, it's clear they had eyes and ears all over the trump campaign. they were clearly focused on getting to know what trump was doing. >> dana: i'm totally willing to believe all that happened but i go back, when the president that i hope it's not true but it looks like it is. maybe they will get some more information tomorrow at this briefing. it was only four republicans, and i do think nancy pelosi and chuck schumer were right to say there is the gang of eight which is the ability, remember that was where the enhanced interrogation techniq...