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C.i.a. is a little bit confounding to most americans i think. and in these states, maybe i'm wrong, though. you tell me. would it behoove the democrats to vote against her? >> certainly the controversy here, dana, is that gina haspel, of course, part of the interrogation, the enhanced interrogation techniques after 9/11 that many have called torture including john mccain. mccain, of course, going to vote against gina haspel as is rand paul which is why the republicans find themselves in this situation where they need the separate democrats to get her over the line. and they are wisely looking ...

Keep in mind the context of this discussion. they were talking about john mccain's opposition to the cia nominee who has a record supporting enhanced interrogation techniques. that is why they said he is dying anyway. he suffered through those kinds of torturous techniques and said he is disposable. >> happy mother's day to you. thank you for being here. it's mother's day. while every mom deserves to be celebrated raising kids in a white house comes with unique challenges. we'll talk about that next. stay with us. so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn'...

Killed. the american people believe we should move forward with comprehensive immigration reform and trump is moving in exactly the wrong direction. we see the cruelty of his immigration policies when you talk about the united states government separating children from their parents. we need to move aggressively and do what the american people want towards comprehensive immigration reform. >> senator, i want to ask you one of the major nominees on the docket, gina haspel. you have announced your opposition to that pick. i have to ask, both gina haspel and john brennan were in the cia when enha...

>> i think it's a red herring. i can't believe democratic senators are relitigating a debate that the american people had more than a decade ago. gina haspel did not put that interrogation program into place. it was legal when it was carried out by her and then we had a great debate about it and we decided to roll back some of those interrogation techniques. i think she was right to defend the cia officers who were carrying out their duty in a constitutional and legal fashion. >> paul: kate, you saw the hearing and there was some suggestion beforehand that it was going to be really worse than ...

>> paul: president trump's pick to lead the cia facing a grilling this week on capitol hill. gina haspel, a 33 year veteran of the agency testified wednesday before the senate intelligence committee ahead of a confirmation vote there next year. has pee peel facing questions -- haspel facing questions over the role in her post 9/11 interrogation program. >> do you believe the previous interrogation techniques were immoral? >> senator, i believe that cia officers to whom you referred -- >> it's a yes or no answer. >> senator, i believe that cia -- >> it's a yes or no answer. >> -- did extraordin...