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now, the department, they want to take the muzzle off, of course. and keep in mind, when two former pence aides testified to the federal grand jury, there had been a deal that had already been negotiated in advance to try to steer clear of any of their direct interactions with trump. that happens through the same approach we've seen used by the house select committee. the fact that the doj is dotting their is and crossing their ts and preparing for a court privilege signals that if information is what you want, negotiation approach, let alone the muzzle, suspect going to cut it. reme...

Shan wu, doug jones, and rnc communications director doug heye. you're all former, but presently here. i'm sorry. i said former, former, former. you're all experts at these topics. when you hear about the privilege issues more broadly, it's a bit more nuanced. biden is not going to assert the privilege here. but they're kind of figuring out, is this a fight we can win if we go there? is it smart? >> it's smart to figure that out and really this is a role that a.g. garland was born to do. he's a federal court of appeals judge for most of his career. so, he's a good guy to lead doj into this typ...

Within evil or, college we appreciate you so. much thank you. starting next saturday, david cain joins us msnbc this other day. she will use her credentials to shed light on how the intersection of, race law, and culture, are all impacting our politics at the local and national levels. the katie fang show will air 7 am and sundays on 7 am eastern beginning next week, here, on msnbc. thank you for watching the last show of msnbc reports at 7 am. i am cori coffin. next door starts right now. arts right now ,. 's been approaching a turning point in this war. and now seems that we are there. i mus...

>> it is hard to say what any individual can do in the face of these massive kind of historical forces that we're at the intersection of, right? what happens when you give voice to billions of people for the first time in history? >> do you think on the right side -- we'll be on the right side of history when 2003 look back at this period? >> i think so. i think when we connect people and share more ideas isn't going to end up being a positive thing. >> although we're at a moment where a lot of people are watching facebook and wondering, can you do all those things. >> the principles of how do...