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The number is actually probably much higher, not to mention all the people that have been injured and hurt. what could the president do to push people to get mandated? he would argue, president biden, that they have tried every persuasive technique. but what powers does he have that could push people to get vaccinated this holdout group, the 26% that are eligible that refuse to get vaccinated? >> well, assuming congress has created a law giving regulatory authority over interstate commerce for things like interstate travel. whether airplanes, ports. to be able to travel you could put in a date...

Emergency relief that osha can pass emergency relief to protect workers' safety. so i think the suggestion that somehow this is unconstitutional is overblown, if not frivolous, frankly. >> ilya, go ahead. >> i'm getting flashbacks to these sorts of arguments that i was having over ten years ago over the supreme court mandate. this is why i keep saying that the federal government can't force businesses to do its dirty work. it's not necessary and proper for the enforcement of interstate commerce. remember, unless chief justice roberts, now i guess you need kavanaugh, to decide that a vaccine ma...

Interferes with interstate commerce or in this case perhaps international commerce to mexico or to new mexico within the country or that violates human rights pursuant to a treaty in order to get injunctive relief. i know the attorney general is looking closely at all of his options. he also has optioned under the ku klux klan act to bring criminal proceedings against bounty hunters who are basically engaged in the kind of vigilante justice that led to the enactment of the ku klux klan act of 1971, so it is curious that this little restaurant in harvard square could become a landmark in the pa...

Meaningfully? >> you got did just right. you brought back wonderful memories and you got all of it right. the whole case arose because of this arbitrary power that was given to a private entity. it happened to be a church. but the issue is the same, whether it's a church or not. there's all these cases in which the supreme court has said you cannot give governmental power over people's lives or liberty to private bodies that have no public accountability. and the supreme court has said in 1925 in the unanimous decision by justice holmes that the attorney general of the united states, even with...

In 1925, in a unanimous decision, that the attorney general of the united states, even without a statute, has authority to go to court, to represent the united states against any state, which interferes with interstate commerce, or in this case, international commerce, to mexico, or to new mexico within the country. or that violates human rights pursuant to a treaty. in order to get injunctive relief. and i know, the attorney general is looking closely at all of those options. he also has options under the ku klux klan act, to bring criminal proceedings, against bounty hunters who are basicall...