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Finding out, the committee has a lot of information and a lot of people that will corroborate stories or will say, no, that's not quite what happened. and oh, by the way, here's my phone log. he may just be in over his head and is realizing that fighting this and dragging it out is his only chance right now. >> that reporting is from politico. cnn has not been able to confirm some of those details but let me move on to the meadows squirming, as amanda calls it. and elie, this lawsuit that was filed, of course, we heard from the committee they were going to move forward with the referral vote f...

It is now in the senate where it's being held up. senate leader schumer promised to try to bring it to the floor and get that vote before christmas. it's likely of course the senate could change the bill. we have to go to a conference committee. it's unclear exactly what the changes might be. and this is a really messy and complicated negotiation that we have seen play out for months. it would take a lot for it to come to completion in the few weeks between now and christmas. >> chuck, let's back up. one more question about the work of the one six committee. specifically this side matter betwe...

Answer, especially if republicans take over the house as mike said in 2022. that's why bannon and so many others, including clark, seem to be in this wait-and-see game. wait and hope supreme court justices on the supreme court somehow doesn't have a warrenberger moment and prompt trump and these documents and the phone log from january 6th to come forward. >> it is echoing history. i don't think a lot of people have confidence the institutions are like they were back then. i want to get into the strategy of stonewalling. bannon defying his subpoena. clark not cooperating. talk about the body l...

That stammering interview, with a great reporter in his home state who he seemed to take him totally by surprise. what does it say about kevin mccarthy who had to have known that, that he wanted to throw or rigor ruin the 1/6 committee by putting someone he had to know was a witness on it? >> i think we now know why nancy pelosi had to reject jim jordan. he is a fact witness and he's going to get a very complicated future ahead of him. here is why. first, his claims that he can't remember how many times on january 6th he called the president or what time of day, that's easily remedied by simpl...

The white house itself released a phone log. where the president solicited aid from a foreign country to his own personal and political gain. and held, in exchange, congressionally-approved funding. and that is certainly something that we should hear the entire story on. and nobody is above the law. nobody is above the law. >> senator, i want to talk about you and i have a lot of occasion to talk about health and safety issues. one of the provisions in the senate appropriations government funding bill that we believe is going to get taken care of so we don't have a government shutdown. but one...