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do everything short of that nik sure that a group isis doesn't get momentum, capability, size, scope and scale to get us either here or our interests abroad. >> 4,500 americans die and bonehead maliki in there. it wasn't like we were trying to strike a deal with this shiite thug. >> when i was governor, i had a chance to be in iraq five times. maliki is a thug. he is someone who promulgated a war. >> doesn't this lie on maliki's head than any other american leader? >> it does but his problem becomes our problem. if you allow isis to run free in big parts of syria and western iraq and everything in iraq north of baghdad and maybe parts of baghdad' they kept sufficient scale and scope to attack us we