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Confusion? and does the dod cooperate in any way specified? >> i think to the degree that they have brought to light information that we can act upon, to get additional people out, of course, that's been helpful and we certainly share the concerns that these groups have for these individuals. we feel the same obligation that they do to it. so to the degree that they've been able to help us latch on and identify, then, yes, that's been helpful. gordon. >> a few different things. one question with the taliban, it's not an intelligence question, but was there any kind of coordination? did you sha...

Who identify with those who need to be evacuated. we are primarily responsible for helping provide that secure area at the airport for them to be able to get through the process and get through to properly manifest them and to get them on flights out of there. but look, i mean, i think a lot of us are getting e-mails and calls and texts from friends and colleagues, many of them are veterans who are passing information to us to try to help get additional people out and we're doing the best we can when we are contacted to get that information in the right stream, to the right people on the groun...

Friends and allies? >> they made assurances as part of the doha agreement about affiliation with al-qaeda and terrorist groups in afghanistan. >> and they said that publicly as part of the doha agreement. >> do you have any indication as to the level or types of foreign fighters that may have flowed into afghanistan in recent days and weeks? >> i do not. >> okay, i think we're going to call it a day. we're going to call it a day, lucas, i appreciate it very much. i appreciate it very much. >> were released in jail from the taliban, is that evidence of isis-- >> all right, there you have it her...

Going to talk to you. >> at this point i think any information is helpful, if we can continue to have some sort of dialog with them although we don't trust them, i don't see how that's going to hurt us. we've got to have a very strong filter, but the bottom line is, we're relying on the words of people who are beheading people in the streets and going to go back to a much different way of life for women there and who we fought to get out there have because they provided a breeding ground for terrorism. so it's not going to be helpful even if we're having a dialog with them and one thing for su...

That. my question is, is dod cooperating with any of these organizations? can you talk about that? and then, what is your message to these organizations? are they helping? are they hindering? and given what you know about how this is unfolding, should they continue their operations? >> well, it's certainly not for us to tell them to stop caring about individuals that they know that are in afghanistan, howard. we are, as you might imagine, we are working off many different streams of information about various vulnerable afghan groups, not to mention applicants in the special immigrant visa prog...