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Gulf of mexico walkers which is why he expected to rapidly intensify for landfall sometime tomorrow. arthel: if you know all about that, thank you very much. we'll see you again about an hour. and will be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern but now, and editorial. >> editorial report, the scrambled to evacuate a markets and afghan allies, couple airport continues today with president divided deadline for withdrawal and now just three days away and depending on the same date that to isis-k isis were killed in following the night entrance killed 1300 service members number 200 others military commanders 2...

Eyes and ears that we were used to having for 20 years is certainly gone, and it'll be the central challenge that the united states faces, is how do we track these radical islamist groups that are going to grow inside of afghanistan when we do not have any presence on the ground. after all, we not only lost the eyes and ears of afghan security forces, but it's the afghan people themselves that provided significant human intelligence to us of what was taking place in their neighborhoods, in their districts, in their farming areas, etc. so, yeah, this is going to be a real challenge for us. but ...

To, to go after isis in particular. but perhaps other jihadists. you agree with that? >> i do agree with that and, of course, that's the lesson of the complete withdrawal from iraq in december 2011. secretary panetta was there along with our current secretary of defense, general austin, secretary austin, as well as vice president biden who, remember, called up then-president obama and said thank you for allowing me to end this god damn war. paul, think about the conceit behind that statement, that wars end when one party disengages. and we know al-qaeda in iraq didn't look around and say, oh, ...

Capability to strike and be very responsive to targets. as you know, these targets can be very fleeting -- paul: right. >> -- so that kind of response is a factor. now coming from the middle east, is where we're coming from, and that's quite a distance. i mean, there's a lot of wishful thinking in this over the horizon concept that we're talking about. the only place where we're actually doing that and it's really not over the horizon, remember, the four places that president biden targeted saying this is where where we're after the al-qaeda, isis who are trying to attack the united states, ir...