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this isn't ability an economic interest, it meant a people eventually come around to that struggle. >> pedro, are you a veteran of that move him, that college campus movement. tell us what it was, what the roots of that movement were, how it really was hugely successful grass roots movement. what set it apart and made it so successful? >> i think what happened here was many americans, particularly on the college campuses responded to the mass protests that took place in south africa. it was the first time in 1984 after the benedict of the elections that we had seen mass protests in the country and that triggered i think a response here. it was particularly felt on the campuses and it took time but i think gradually many americans started to change their attitude to everything apathetical.