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Do you want to suddenly -- >> or buried under it. >> do you want to do that? i sort of doubt it, ayers wanted to be there for a short period of time and the president want someone like ayers who has political sensibilities because the president actually understands what he's heading into for the next two years with the democratically controlled house, and with the mueller investigation. and he always criticized kelly for not having political sensibility. but i think ayers had enough political sensibility to say no way i'm stepping in this mess >> are there indications the president wants someo...

President, that there's further -- that's in the payments to these women, accusers. then there's further evidence now of the use of his corporations to pay them off, thus the coverup. when you look at those two things, you realize why the president is facing such pressure now and why the president is at risk of both political jeopardy and in criminal jeopardy. these are felonies that we're talking about. as it relates to impeachment, anderson, the constitution couldn't be any clearer. impeachment is the appropriate remedy for treason, high crimes, and misdemeanors. we have to look at what robe...

>> i would not use that. remember the timing of these private transactions. they were within weeks of election day. i think we all can imagine how politically explosive it would have been if either or both of these women had come forward. so this was campaign money. this was money going to elect donald trump. that's why michael cohen had to plead guilty to a crime because they didn't treat it in the way campaign contributions are supposed to be treated. whether he will have to go to prison because of this, it's a bit premature. but to say they are simple contracts between two people is far, fa...

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And to eventually, i think, turn it into a positive once we get to the senate. that is the reality. i'm not sure the white house gets that yet. >> that is absolutely absurd to say that impeachment is a certainty. i've spoken to a lot of the people involved here, the democrats know that in 1998 the republicans impeached bill clinton knowing full well he would never get removed from office. there were never going to be 67 votes in the senate, and the democrats have vowed not to repeat that mistake. they're not going to repeat that mistake. there is no support for going forward with impeachment a...