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The president so we all have to work and deal with that. >> well, it's not just one poll, though. there was a recent pugh research poll that rates it as excellent and even among democrats that number is just 36%. the president's own party. >> no question. there's no question and i'm not pushing back on you and this isn't spin. there's a reality of the situation and i think we just need to continue to get out there. when i say we, the administration, talking about what we're doing to deal with, whether it's getting people back to work or dealing with inflation, all of those things that are talk...

Is a challenging moment coming up for the virginia republican party. one of a very long string of such moments. >> let me show you more of president obama's remarks. this is about our politics of meanness. >> so we are in a turning point right now. both here in america and around the world. because there is a mood out there. we see it, right? there is a politics of meanness. and division. and conflict. of tribalism, and cynicism. and that's one path. but the good news is, there is another path, where we pull together. and we solve big problems. and we rebuild our society in a way that gives fo...

Theories coming directly from the oval office. as you pointed out in previous impeachments, whether it was nixon or clinton to a certain extent, of course you had a situation where the president and their team was pushing back very aggressively, even crossing the line at times to misinformation. but the flip side is i don't believe that we've ever had a real-time public effort at this kind of propaganda and conspiracy theory coming directly from inside the oval office. and so that makes it even harder given the conventions of our journalism today on all of the shows you have people trying to d...

Going on in technology nowadays. >> now, for the audience's edification, you are biased. you know, you like roger stone. he is more than a former employer. he's godfather to your child. so personally you care about him, and you want to protect him. did you come away from your session today believing that the investigators are coming for roger stone? >> i -- i did. i think that there's cause for concern based on that they just want to believe something happened, which i don't believe it did. >> why do you feel that? you're with him. you're with the pros. you're there in front of the grand jury....

Investigators are coming for roger stone? >> i -- i did. i think that there's cause for concern based on that they just want to believe something happened, which i don't believe it did. >> why do you feel that? you're with him. you're with the pros. you're there in front of the grand jury. this is the real game. this isn't spin. this isn't people talking to me. how did they come across to new. >> well, there's a relationship between the special counsel prosecutor and those juror members. >> they're there for them. it's their show. >> right. >> it's not supposed to be a trial. >> right. and he'...