investigators are coming for roger stone? >> i -- i did. i think that there's cause for concern based on that they just want to believe something happened, which i don't believe it did. >> why do you feel that? you're with him. you're with the pros. you're there in front of the grand jury. this is the real game. this isn't spin. this isn't people talking to me. how did they come across to new. >> well, there's a relationship between the special counsel prosecutor and those juror members. >> they're there for them. it's their show. >> right. >> it's not supposed to be a trial. >> right. and he's making jokes. he has a rapport with them, and he's able to, you know, lead these questions in a negative manner. >> but you know he's allowed to do that. it was a he? >> yes. >> they're allowed to do that. usually the rules of evidence, they get objections and they get jammed up and a judge would have to decide. not here. it is the prosecutor's show. so leading questions are okay, but you're saying they betrayed an intention? >> correct.