going on in technology nowadays. >> now, for the audience's edification, you are biased. you know, you like roger stone. he is more than a former employer. he's godfather to your child. so personally you care about him, and you want to protect him. did you come away from your session today believing that the investigators are coming for roger stone? >> i -- i did. i think that there's cause for concern based on that they just want to believe something happened, which i don't believe it did. >> why do you feel that? you're with him. you're with the pros. you're there in front of the grand jury. this is the real game. this isn't spin. this isn't people talking to me. how did they come across to new. >> well, there's a relationship between the special counsel prosecutor and those juror members. >> they're there for them. it's their show. >> right. >> it's not supposed to be a trial. >> right. and he's making jokes. he has a rapport with them, and he's able to, you know, lead these questions in a negative manner. >> but you know he's allowed to