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Sudhakar, in the meeting, stated that the functioning of the department will be hampered if officials do not dispose of files with responsibility, and ensure transparency and accountability.
Joining me for much more, bob b baer. cnn international nick paton walsh. nick, zawahri was one of the most visible terrorists left. you can almost argue he's one of few who many americans still had name recognition of. what do you think of how jake sullivan described his role in al qaeda's network now? >> frankly, he's going to have better information than me managing to find this guy in the middle of kabul with no boots of the ground. we're seeing a different diminished al qaeda, not what we knew 20 years ago guys hiding out issuing orders, this is a global franchise and local groups doing t...
In ukraine with ukraine's consent. >> it is difficult. i mean, these are hard cases to make. it's not just a question of an individual committing an act. it's also what orders were given, what is the chain of command. >> indeed. they are very difficult cases. there's no question about it. and you do have a chain of command. and there may be individuals who are liable all the way up that chain of command from the individual on the ground, who's the direct perpetrator, to the person at the top, who's the architect of violence, and who's either issuing orders or who's failing to properly supervis...
Great satisfaction that people in uniform that commit themselves to protecting our country basically engage in these operations for one reason, which is to protect our country. and i think that was the primary motive that the president said, go, with this operation, was to largely protect our country from an isis terrorist leader. >> mr. secretary, as we heard from barbara, there's usually a lieutenant who's ready to step up when the top guy is out. isis leaders are like shark teeth. when one falls out, there's another one that moves forward. what do you expect the practical impact of this eli...
Carry out an operation. and look at that convoy. you know, they are operating bumper to bumper. they are making themselves very vulnerable. they're not maneuvering in any kind of way to avoid being fired upon. the real question, i think, the bottom line here is russian leadership. every indication we're told is that russian commanders are in charge. they are issuing orders, but what nobody can say is how deeply involved is vladimir putin in these day-to-day military orders? is he giving his military his own people that he is ordering into combat, is he actually giving them what they need? righ...