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Corner and hit a hundred lawyers in d.c. why they had to put this one there was a mistake. it doesn't mean he should be fired. it doesn't mean the president should be given credit for not firing him. if this is correct, the president was about to do a remarkably self-defeating act and one that would be grossly inappropriate. but i don't think it makes a case for obstruction. people look at each of these changes and say there it is. there is the piece we are looking for and he has defenses. >> well, i think jonathan sort of made my point which is you look at so many different acts that the pres...

Imperialist state. they would pass things around in note form. it would take on a life and mythology on its own. so it is a dig with russia but it's really evoke active phrase. >> the way things are passed around among the aides at the white house, there is an open whisper campaign. you never know what's on the record and off the record because everyone is whispering. >> the truth is being told but under the subrosa. >> he could have said a lot of things. but using that term, a.b., seems like an intentional thing by wolff. do you have problems with the reporting technique? >> again, i'm not st...

One day says, you know what? i didn't find anything, it's pretty low. paul: all right. what about, dan, the other side of in that mary alluded to, the fbi role in theç 2016 campaign? we've had a lot of evidence come out about the anti-trump sympathies of some of the fbi people and the prosecutors working on the mueller probe. it doesn't mean, in my view necessarily, that the mueller probe is tainted, it just means that it makes it harder for him to be able to sell to the american public that he is looking at this in a fair-minded way. >> that is the key point, i think, paul. it will be harde...

One day says, you know what? i didn't find anything, it's pretty low. paul: all right. what about, dan, the other side of in that mary alluded to, the fbi role in theç 2016 campaign? we've had a lot of evidence come out about the anti-trump sympathies of some of the fbi people and the prosecutors working on the mueller probe. it doesn't mean, in my view necessarily, that the mueller probe is tainted, it just means that it makes it harder for him to be able to sell to the american public that he is looking at this in a fair-minded way. >> that is the key point, i think, paul. it will be harde...

They talk about it. they write about it. this isn't new. it doesn't mean that the mueller investigation is looking dodgy. there's no basis for that. >> well, i think there's basis, or at least people on our side of the fence believe that. at the same time, i've got to believe the person most upset about this beyond donald trump would be robert mueller himself. >> he got rid of him. >> yeah, but also, after he did that, he should have, you know, been more forthcoming with information. congress wanted to know immediately why he had done it. and for some reason, they delayed that for a long, long...