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Important poll all have said that the president is at all time lows and this is impacting the polls of democrats all across america. even governors, you know like andrew cuomo. he has nothing do with barack obama. his numbers are dropping. they are dropping across america. >> yeah. there's a real trend here. you look at those senate poll numbers in the last week, montana, colorado, north carolina, democrats who were either running close or ahead just a month ago are now are either even or behind. he clearly -- this is all largely a product of the health care fiasco, the obama care fiasco in oc...

Is that going too far? >> well, i think even conservatives should concede that obama has been the most consequential liberal president since lyndon johnson. and in certain ways not in every way since fdr. certainly hismean, he talked, an 2008 about fundamentally transforming the united states of america. and i think that was more than rhetoric. he does believe that america ought to be lifted morally and socially and that government can do it. and obama care is the key to his plan to turn this country into a better country. conservatives, of course, will not agree with his diagnosis or prescrip...

You can see over the gate, over the horizon and you see something coming, if you don't warn, bruce, what happens to you? >> you go back to egypt and oppressed state. when i get stuck, go back to the text. there is a reason it endures as powerful metaphor. this is about the power of stories to give us hope in challenging times. >> you have taken shots and been knocked down. we talk about the survivor personality. you say you are a believer. i remember when you took the test a year ago, survivor