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Howie: in the midst of a fierce media debate over the russia investigation, the hotly disputed memo and the state of the union, i was in new york when i spoke with sean spicer, the former white house press secretary. much of the media are painting a picture of the president going after the media to undercut the mueller investigation. sean: the president has a right to make his position clear on issues. between top investigators at the fbi, there seems to be some merit to the president's concern. if you are going to be investigated, you have a right to make sure people understand the full conte...

Having a problem with a trust issue with the american people. how the media will handle this in the future will determine how people will feel about it. howie: the memo has been caught in the crossfire. "the plot to stop mueller." obviously republicans and some conservative media folks are trying to undermine the special counsel investigation, but it doesn't mean the information isn't accurate or relevant. gayle: the former director of the fbi james comey said the dossier was salacious and unverified. i disagree. the fbi used at document commissioned by one presidential campaign to spy on anot...

Howie: sean spicer, thanks for joining us. after the break, more on the house memo. it

Howie: when you were press secretary did you get too personal in going after reporters? and did the president encourage you to take an aggressive tone? sean: i regret some of the reactions i had, regardless of whether they were deserved or not. on whether a reporter crossed the line or went too far. but i should have been the better person in that moment. there are times i look back and say two rights don't make a wrong and i should have been the bigger person in that instance and not kind of lost my cool or my temper. howie: were you under pressure your boss to be as combative as you were. se...

Van jones instead of saying he did a great job, he read well from the teleprompter. he said he was delivering sweet-tasting candy with poison in it. and i agreed at that point. i think the coverage of the state of the union was quite fair. i didn't see a lot of people criticizing the democrats looking very sour. plenty conservatives looked sour with obama. howie: trump got a very big audience. more watched on fox news than any other network. then he said it was the largest state of the union ever. why make that claim when it's