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Murder. seven counts of assault with intent to murder. and 12 counts of possession of a firearm and the commission of a felony. >> we've also just learned a fourth student has died. seven other people were hurt in the shooting. nbc's shaquille brewster is with us in pontiac, michigan. news on multiple fronts. we expect to hear more from the sheriff. we showed the microphone where we expect to hear from officials. what are the outstanding questions that you have that we hope to be answered here? >> reporter: really, it is what more they have in this investigation. we know the sheriff earlier to...

I am not walking away from that. should i be concerned about the people that want to sneak in america? that wasn't directed at people that are already here legally. it wasn't directed at them. so what's the beef? >> cain made those remarks in an appearance with vocal sheriff joe arpaio from arizona. the sheriff had his own opinion of the joke. >> he told a joke. >> he just said that the fence might be electric. >> i don't know. i got an electric fence. it doesn't kill people. it shocks you. >> we are going to have more on herman cain in a moment. we want to get you live to vice president, joe ...