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being told that there are multiple fatalities. police have not yet released an exact count. perhaps we'll get some insight during this briefing. however, they have confirmed that there is no longer an active threat in the area. let's go to nbc's morgan chesky is on the ground for us rates outside the mall there allen, texas. morgan, we've been checking in with you since this tragedy unfolded. what can you tell us? aged >> amen, there still remains an incredibly large law enforcement presence here, surrounding an entire parameter of the small, more than 120 stores. as we wait to hear ...

Confirmed that this gunman was in fact killed here at the scene. ayman? >> all right, mark chesky with us in allen, texas for us. i'll check back in with you again let's bring in julián castro, former secretary for urban development. also with us doctor amy andrews, a pediatrician and the founder and ceo of their future our vote. an organization that advocates for children's well-being in texas state representative james. ricotta state representative talarico, let me start with you before i get to dr. andrews. i don't know if you heard that soundbite from the woman there when morgan asked her...

So traumatized, that we are finding ourselves in a state of paralysis to deal with this issue. >> you know i think we often forget that we are the only country in the world that allows this to happen, the united states is not an outlier when it comes to mental health, the united states is not an outlier when it comes to school security. we are an outlier in the number of readily accessible weapons of war in our community. and so we have to remember that this is a choice. accepting the status quo is a choice that policy makers make and we can make a different choice. >> all right, dr. any andre...