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For redistricting agencies to download it and convert it. one expert compared the process to buying furniture from ikea instead of pot pottery barn. when you get it from ikea, it's like build it yourself. we do like building from ikea, do we not? the district maps are approaching fast. colorado needs to have its maps ready to show the state's supreme court by october 6th. so in the next few weeks, states will draw the maps that could determine the control of congress for the next decade. joining us now to discuss it our nbc digital reporter a jane tamman and brian lee from the democracy progra...

Republicans feel they're a little on the outs. so there aren't a lot of legal protects for people of color in those areas, especially as people of color increasingly would have in the summer most people of color live in the suburbs, not in the cities and so, you know, we are facing a lollapalooza of redistricting for people of color really sort of a redistricting people can call that disastrous music to watch the hbo series. people of color especially in the south. >> i hope this doesn't turn into the fyre festival of redistricting. then we'll really have a problem. jane, what about ha? it's n...

Ago. most of the commissions today are independent commissions. as you can see back in 2011 there were only 8 of them. now slightly a plurality of them are independent rather than republican. jane, how does that impact the potential for a red wave in 2022? >> you know, i think republicans still control quite a lot. you can see on the screen. they're going to control a lot more of this than democrats n. no small part because democratic voters have embraced these independent commission, put their map-drawing process in the hands of independent commissions, at least in some states. that's not to ...