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States. that's not to say they don't gerrymander. we do, we see maryland districts. but it is the big difference between how much they control. republicans can move the dial a couple of percents in a lot of districts and retake congress without really leaving those back rooms is where gerrymandering happens. we can't forget that republicans are in the state legislatures affecting who can get to the ballot box, texas, where georgia has, that's the other one i was going for, those are states where this is all really going to matter. if you shave off 1% of the ballot box and 1% in the redistricti...

Ago. most of the commissions today are independent commissions. as you can see back in 2011 there were only 8 of them. now slightly a plurality of them are independent rather than republican. jane, how does that impact the potential for a red wave in 2022? >> you know, i think republicans still control quite a lot. you can see on the screen. they're going to control a lot more of this than democrats n. no small part because democratic voters have embraced these independent commission, put their map-drawing process in the hands of independent commissions, at least in some states. that's not to ...

That their vote doesn't matter. to continue to gerrymander and to continue to try to make districts that aren't competitive. and they've done that systemically over time. what we have to do is go back to those voters all across the valley. in harris county, in dallas, all across this state. and talk to people about why their vote does matter. there are specific races that they can't gerrymander. at the county level. at the mayoral level. we need to win those local elections. continue to turn more and more of those counties blue. and over time we can actually have an impact statewide and have s...

To continue to gerrymander and to continue to try to make districts that aren't competitive. and they've done that systemically over time. what we have to do is go back to those voters all across the valley. in harris county, in dallas, all across this state. and talk to people about why their vote does matter. there are specific races that they can't gerrymander. at the county level. at the mayoral level. we need to win those local elections. continue to turn more and more of those counties blue. and over time we can actually have an impact statewide and have some elections that we can win an...

Districts and you avoid the notion of these heavily-engineered jergerrymandd districts. i think this is the approach that has taken hold on some states, but we saw even in arizona, governor jan brewer tried to fire the woman who chaired because she voted for a couple of districts that were competitive. i think we need a national solution. the commission would take it out of the hands of the politicians. i think that's going to make a huge difference not today, of course, but the next time we go through this debok call across the country. >> the only thing that occurred to me, is no matter what...