Jared will, occasionally, call and check in. and -- and one person described it as -- as dropping your child off at daycare. you know, the parent sort of, slowly, gets to stay a little bit less and less each day. jared, being the parent. trump, being the -- the toddler. and, you know, and -- and if something does ramp up, perhaps he will step back in. but clearly, now, there is nothing going on between the two sides. >> kate, i -- stand by. i want to bring in cnn's jim acosta. jim, you obviously had a front-row seat to this for years. i guess the former president was very close to his daughter...